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Poster: dr. flashback Date: Sep 20, 2006 2:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Hello intrepid listeners, back again for this week's Oprah's pick. I thought I'd post on Wed and give people a chance to listen and post over the weekend, cool?
Well, what can you say? Once in a while, you have to actually pull out some of the golden chestnuts, the Titans - and dust them off, crank it up and see if they really are still as good as you thought. This is one that never disappoints me, and reaffirms just why 1974 was such a landmark year. So - as Rod Serling would say, "submitted for your approval" - 2/24/74 Winterland! A show that's sure to please almost everybody. Go to the show here -
http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-02-24.sbd.windsor.199.sbefail.shnf

You could consider these 3 Winterland shows as sort of the end of the 1973 tour - since they didn't do a New Year's show, and one could argue that the cosmic steamroller we know as 1974 didn't really begin in earnest until the May shows three months later.
Certainly the first two nights show some signs of some rustiness due to taking two months off, even though both 2/22 and 2/23 have their amazing moments. But by tonight, the Dead had fully recharged and clearly show they're ready to pick up the bus where they left off – that is, the mind boggling jams of Boston 12/2/73, Cleveland 12/6/73 and the two Florida shows on Dec. 18th and 19th.
One of the main factors for me in rating a top show is not only great playing and jamming, but also the overall strength of the set lists. A great 2nd Set jam but lots of weak songs doesn't quite make it for me for a top 10 show. And that's one main reason this show is such a sparkler - every song is a winner, even Bobby's cowboy songs are on tonight. Plus, this show is nearly a perfect photo album of their whole career; a well sampled mix from the early days (Morning Dew) the Pig years (NFA>GDTRFB) American Beauty (Candyman, Sugar Mag) Workingman's (Cumberland) Wake of the Flood (Row Jimmy, Let it Grow) and US Blues and Ship of Fools about to be released on Mars Hotel.
This is a 4 Disc face-stealing experience, and it really deserves to be heard in its entirety. You know, incense, candles, a couple Of bowls and brews – and let it roll. I don’t recommend trying to stream this at work, ha ha, esp. not the Dark Star.
For those of you who only have stream access to this show, but your stereo is in the other room – I recommend getting a 30-40 foot cable from Radio Shack, with regular stereo RCA plugs on each end. Then you can also Y connect or adapt this to a stereo mini-plug on the computer end, very easy!
I won’t spoil the fun for those lucky few who might be new to this show, but just to mention a few standouts – Candyman, a blazing China>Rider and a Playin that remains one of the best of 74.
The Dark Star>Morning Dew is hands down my favorite for 1974, here in Wall of Sound glory. Jerry kicks off both sets tonight – a good sign? You bet, and the Cumberland will make you forget all other versions. "Bluegrass on acid". Go check out the reviews, too. They're a real hoot.
Hope you folks enjoy this special show as much as I do.
Cheers,
Dr. Flashback :-)

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Poster: ganges Date: Sep 20, 2006 11:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

This was the next show I wanted to burn on CD from my HD, so I will, thank you, this is a fun thing with Oprah's Picks, couldn't listen to #1 yet.

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Poster: ksantilli Date: Sep 20, 2006 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Hey, this show is pretty good!! I agree with alot of things already mentioned. I enjoyed Candyman's unique sounds and the Chinacat everybody is mentioning, it's getting ready to start, still tuning....yeah pretty sweet! Looking forward to hearing that Dark Star-> Morning Dew, both among my favorites.

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Poster: 6kidsdad Date: Sep 20, 2006 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

This has always been one of my favorite shows. Back in the mid eighties I got a copy of this show from Ship of Fools thru to the encore, minus Sugar Magnolia. The Dark Star just floored me, along with a perfect Not fade away > GDTRFB>NFA. Just listen to the transition from NFA into GDTRFB. Just beautiful.

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Poster: DEADBUCK Date: Sep 20, 2006 6:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Can we call it TO's pick? Something about Oprah rubs me the wrong way...lol....and I know that its mostly jest...I cant stand her! Just being honest.

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Poster: TulaneGDead Date: Sep 25, 2006 4:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

First off, i would like to say "thankyou" for this show. i have never really been a big fan of 1974; i don't know why...it's just that every show that i've listened to from that year has never really impressed me. It feels very weird thinking that because it seems like everyone has the biggest hard on for 1974. However, this show might have singled handedly converted me to a pro '74 man. It was just unbelievable...one of the best shows i've heard. If any of you know of any other shows from 1974 that are equal to or surpass the caliber of this show, please let me know.

Highlights:
BEW- fantastic build ups on the chorus; love billy on the drums

Bill's drumming: i've never really cared about drumming in the dead, but after hearing this show i can't help but think that the dead would have been better off without mickey forever

Playing in the band

Candyman
Ship of Fools
China >Rider: for obvious reasons, absolutely awesome

Loser and Morning Dew: i don't care if it sounds cliche and amateurish, but i am a huge fan of 5/8/77 i don't think it is overrated at all. The versions of loser and morning dew at cornell are my favorites, and i think they got surpassed by what i heard on 2/24/74. The morning due was just ridiculous. Who the hell else was playing like this in 1974? it gave me chills. Same thing for Loser. 5/8 has one of my favorite losers on it, but i think this one surpasses it.

Bobby: usually bobby isn't so lound in the mix, but on this show his rhythm guitar was clearly audible and he was on fire. i wish there were more shows where bobby was turned up a bit more

Things that sucked:

Donna.....my god. She's the worst. Beat it down the line is not a favorite of mine, but when bobby sings it by himself it's a pretty decent tune. however, with donna? jesus. it's soooooo bad. i had to turn down my stereo. i almost skipped the song entirely, but decided (unfortunately) to sweat it out. Same thing with playin.
Are the dudes in the band hearing what we're hearing? i was reading the other day about how she grew up in alabama and recorded background/studio sessions or whatever with people like arethra franklin, percy sledge, elvis presley, adn other soulful and great voices. My ass....last time i heard "when a man loves a woman" or "respect" i didn't hear the offtune whailing and screeching of the most godawful voice i've ever heard. Phhhewww...sorry, i had to vent about that.

Thought the ending could have been a little better. i mean this just played a monster middle 2nd set. like i was just ready to take the cd out after that morning dew. i don't know i guess i just like it better when they go out with a bang like dew or sugar magnolias. overall, a fantastic show.


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Poster: nickteller25 Date: Sep 25, 2006 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Love the reviews and the conversation.
Always been a late '70's fan myself.
Nice to get turned on to '74 from other fans.

I hear clean playing from Jerry here.
Little distortion.
Fairly aggressive, fast-paced I'm a bad-ass on an
improvisational mission kind of stuff.

Phil seems to follow suit.
Bob sounds good.
Donna sucks.

Looking forward to the next submission.
Thanks.

NS

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Poster: blkpeter1 Date: Sep 21, 2006 9:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Alright doc 74 winterland I can't wait to crank this one one my fav years. thanks doc have a great weekend

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Sep 22, 2006 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

I normally dig for east coast nuggets, but this left-coaster is sublime. Democracy thrives again in electing The Oprah.

"All Hail The Oprah"

(Southern pronunciation key: "Aw Hell The Oprah.")

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Sep 22, 2006 11:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

does anyone know Oprah's home address so i can send her a copy? -kidding-maybe

I've JUST started CD3 of 2/24/74 -a warm wind blows

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Poster: Cranky1 Date: Sep 24, 2006 7:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Listened through CD3 yesterday and today. Excellent show...Candyman and one of my favorite transitions from ChinaCat into Rider. Super Loser. My first SBD...excellent sound. The louder I play it, the clearer it gets.

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 20, 2006 10:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

I rarely curse. Maybe never here, until now. Fuck yeah! 1974 Winterland! I am going to GDlive to get this show. Friday night we listen.

Remember those Nissan commercials? "The Grateful Dead, Simply Awesome!"(in your deepest voice)

woooohoooo!! Way to be Dr., errr, I mean Oprah!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 20, 2006 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Hey high flow - i owe you a show right?? for the life of me i can't remember what it was. Were you the one who was looking for the mosque 77 show?? sorry for being a space shot, but i deleted a few emails by accident and not sure if one of them was yours.
just call me a dumbass ;)

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Sep 20, 2006 10:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

any pic's of Oprah in tiedye? (i don't have photoshop)
Her B-day is 1/29, wonder if there's a good B-day show.... (these damn 4:20 in Sydney mindtrips!)

This post was modified by cosmicharlie on 2006-09-20 17:27:56

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Poster: ReddyKillowatt Date: Sep 20, 2006 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

One of the best shows the dead ever did bar none. i can never get enough of it. super great review too

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Poster: lostmoon Date: Sep 24, 2006 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Great pick! - sparks the interest enough to dust off the old CDs and listen to them shine just one more time.

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Sep 20, 2006 4:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

cool! it's on gdlive here >> [outdated gdlive]
Also a 43min soundcheck for that show

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-09-20 23:21:10

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Poster: Cranky1 Date: Sep 20, 2006 8:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Anybody having any success FTPing GDLive?

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Sep 20, 2006 8:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

someday I'll have to learn what that term means...I DL 1 track at a time, always have. Is FTP'ing mean all at once-like a zip folder??

This post was modified by cosmicharlie on 2006-09-20 15:46:53

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Poster: Cranky1 Date: Sep 20, 2006 8:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

I've been successful with SmartFTP. File Transfer Protocol is just a way of getting into a server at the file structure level, like using Windows Explorer on your local computer. Programs like SmartFTP can batch the download so that all the files wanted are selected and dl'ed without the one at a time, which is what I'm doing now as I can't get it to work with GDLive.....

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Poster: Cranky1 Date: Sep 20, 2006 8:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#154
Here's the FAQ for FTP on the archive. Hope it came up in hypertext.

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Poster: dr. flashback Date: Sep 20, 2006 11:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Hi folks,
for GD Live downloads, I have always used Get Right, which is free. But also good old WS FTP (also free) works just fine.
However, I have to use the HTTP web address in the FTP browser (the one posted above) rather than a ftp address - the ftp address, as you've found out, can be buggy. So what you're doing is surfing a website using an ftp browser. Very simple.
Also - you might need to turn on your "Passive" mode for downloading in your FTP software (also known as PASV option). Passive mode works better behind firewalls - which you surely have if you're smart.
Hope this helps - I'm currently making archive backup copies of shows I got from GD Live years ago just to make sure. A good idea and word to the wise.
Dr. Flashback :-)

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Poster: tbrad Date: Sep 20, 2006 5:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

One of my all-time favorites.
Nice pick Doc.
Billy really carries a lot of these tunes, particularly BEW.
Jerry is sublime, as is typical of this era.
Just makes you want to go back in time, don't it?

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Sep 20, 2006 6:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oprah's Picks #2_2/24/74 Winterland

Great pick Dr.
Will listen.
Will listen again.
Looking forward to the reviews.
Adios.